EI Confirmed in Samford Valley

[Susan]

:(:( Just had a phone call from our local vet to alert SEG members of a confirmed EI case in Samford Valley. Iters in Samford may want to be extra vigilant and pass the word :neutral:

From the Samford Valley vets...

A property at Mt Nebo has, today, tested positive for Equine Influenza. Testing of suspect horses with any respiratory symptoms has been and will continue as required within Samford Valley. This is the first confirmed case of the equine flu in Samford Valley. The affected horses have received treatment and are recovering well.

These horses are long term residents on an isolated property. The source of the virus has yet to be determined. To date, there has been no identified direct transfer of the virus, the horses being isolated and the owners not in contact with infected horses or properties. Infection via windborne spread has an almost zero probability of occurrence and therefore, the virus can only have been transferred via indirect methods.

The presence of an infected property at Mt Nebo necessitates the DPI placing a 10km zone around this infected property. This zone will include Mt Nebo, Mt Glorious, Lake Manchester area and will extend into Highvale and Wight’s Mtn. Every effort should be made to prevent further spread of the virus and this can be achieved.

It is now more important than ever that all horse owners continue to practice the highest level of biosecurity to prevent the spread of the virus to their property.

[Simone]

I heard about this tonight from some friends who had Judy out to their horses today - nothing to do with EI though.
All Samford people will have to stick together and be really careful. Hopefully it won't travel down the mountain.

[Phoebe]

&@#$^%$

[Forbidden Doughnut]

&@#$^%$

I second that...

Sigh :(

[Madeline]

&@#$^%$

I 'll third that - one of my old guys is out with Beryl and Clive.
Hope all of the Samford horse get through this ok

[Simone]

This may seem like a dumb question but is it normal to have a variance in the horses temperature? I'm only able to take my horses temps once a day and I do this in the morning.
This morning i've had the first biggest jump, well I wouldn't say big by .4 - .5 of a degree....
These are the temps for the past few days
Haylia
37.4
37.4
37.2
Today 37.7
Summer
37.5
37.3
37.4
Today 37.8

[Phoebe]

I think it can fluctuate a bit, depending on the weather, rugs and time you take the temp etc.

[Simone]

That's what I thought but I will keep an eye on it. I've been taking it at the same time each day.

[Madonna]

I think it can fluctuate a bit, depending on the weather, rugs and time you take the temp etc.
Also if they've been having a big hoon around the paddock just beforehand.

[Simone]

New maps (http://www2.dpi.qld.gov.au/extra/ei/maps/CE_Brisbane_20071011.jpg) have gone up on the DPI website, there is a red circle around cashmere :icon_eek:

[Phoebe]

New maps (http://www2.dpi.qld.gov.au/extra/ei/maps/CE_Brisbane_20071011.jpg) have gone up on the DPI website, there is a red circle around cashmere :icon_eek:

Whats the deal with that??? It's clearly not related to the Mt Nebo case, and is really close to me...

[Simone]

Whats the deal with that??? It's clearly not related to the Mt Nebo case, and is really close to me...

Not sure, 3 cases in PRS now....

[Phoebe]

Hmm.

I'd call the vet and find out but I'm at work and can't til a bit later. It usually comes through the SEG grapevine fairly quickly but I havent heard anything.

[neokate]

Confirmed cases now in Clear Mountain and Kurwongbah

[Phoebe]

How did you find that out? I just rang Samford Vets and the girl there didn't know of any other than Mt Nebo in the area.

[neokate]

From Brian in an email he sent to Leasa.

[Phoebe]

Ah. Apparently his staff just haven't heard yet :)
Thanks...

[neokate]

No worries, I suppose we should now just brace ourselves and wait for the inevitable. (&^$#%$ it! I'm drowning under vets bills now from losing the mare, business is crap, I need to move house and of course can't move the horses, daughter isn't riding and is getting grumpy, horses are getting bored and silly and I didn't win the damn lotto last night!

[Phoebe]

No worries, I suppose we should now just brace ourselves and wait for the inevitable. (&^$#%$ it! I'm drowning under vets bills now from losing the mare, business is crap, I need to move house and of course can't move the horses, daughter isn't riding and is getting grumpy, horses are getting bored and silly and I didn't win the damn lotto last night!

I know. I've only recently recovered from my premature foal related vet bill. I have one pony with Cushings that I'm not convinced will come out of this well. Take some comfort in knowing that the DPI will pay up to $200 per horse in EI related vet bills - on their website somewhere.

I was trying to cut down on stops to buy chips on the way home, what with the no riding and inevitable weight gain, but maybe I'll abandon that and stock up on chips and burger goods for you :)

[neokate]

Yep we're worried about Kate's old pony that lives with Gypsie, he has cushings. We also have a 29 year pony with a permanent cough that was dumped with us that I am very concerned about, Comet will absolutley freak if she goes. Thankfully I have a real job that pays for daughter's horses, I think I'll be working till I'm about 110years old. I'm hoping business will start to pick up again now school is back, there has been a definite drop in the last 5-6 weeks and the only thing I can think of is the EI problem or maybe it's just the food. O well there are many around who are in far worse shape than me.

[Phoebe]

Nah, couldn't be the food :)

I used to work at the pizza shop and business always slowed down when the hot weather set in (and often during school holidays too). Just wait til Christmas gets closer though :icon_eek:

Does your cushings pony get any medication? There is now a far cheaper option available, costs around $80 something for 80 days worth (as opposed to $250 for 100 days). It has made the world of difference with my pony, who nearly pegged out with a sinus infection before I started the meds a few years ago. Let me know if you want more info.

[Simone]

:)
I used to work at the pizza shop and business always slowed down when the hot weather set in (and often during school holidays too). Just wait til Christmas gets closer though :icon_eek:


Hehe oh how I really wish it was still like that!!!! the only bad week that we've had in the past....6 months was last week. This week since half of Samford lost power on Tuesday everyone decided that pizza was the go....gah!!

NeoKate I'm suprised that your store isn't that busy, since school is back it should be up...we do notice a difference over the school holidays...

[Phoebe]

Got an email from Bob Millar confirming Clear Mountain and Kuwongbah again.

[saskia]

I am thinking that Samford will get it, sooner or later. Maybe I am having horse-withdrawal symptoms but am thinking 'just bring it on so we get over it ASAP'.
(Note; I am not suggesting that we shouldn't be careful with biosecurity etc....having my mare at Madison Park means that I haven't seen her since the start off the whole thing! Fortunately Karyn sends us pictures....).

If the DPI intends to let us travel around from Christmas onwards, that would mean that they let the disease take its course, wouldn't it? In that case, we'll get it anyway.

[Phoebe]

Depends Saskia. There was mention of vaccinating some inner buffers within the main buffer zone to try and minimise the spread within the red zone. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Definitely is looking a bit gloomy for Samford people now... up until a day ago I thought we might have half a chance of avoiding it.

[Madeline]

If the DPI intends to let us travel around from Christmas onwards, that would mean that they let the disease take its course, wouldn't it? In that case, we'll get it anyway.

Correct ! that is the plan for us as I see it

[jodles]

yep even though we dont have it on the Sunny Coast as soon as the movement ban is lifted it will come............DPI have left us sitting hung out to dry. I know of a retired racehorse who got vaccinated.........its a big joke now.

[Gypsie]

.... anyone seen any aligators recently? ;)
The swamp just keeps on gettin bigger!!!!
(those who have seen that satire email will realise I am not completely loopy!)

Today, meanwhile, I am busy daydreaming about doing the best ever test at the 2007 State Championships! Galanthus scored 75% in his Elementary test, and Latin Coda did a scorcher of a Novice test (after winning the prelim challenge yesterday ;) ) Just waiting on the Novice scores before I float home for the night.

CANT WAIT till the new state centre is finished. This travelling backwards/forwards for 3 days in a row is a nightmare!


.............oh wouldnt it be nice if all we had to gripe over was lack of stables at this year's States?!!!!

Gypsie (dreaming)

[Simone]

I just found out some info on the case in Clear Mountain. I'm pretty sure it's down the end of Branch Creek Road or Buranda one of the two (same road as Vito R) some lady with donkeys went onto a property with EI and it came back with her. Not sure if it was intentional or not. A friend of mine called and told me as she was speaking to the neighbours of the property that is infected. They have Clydesdales but I’m not sure if they have contracted it or not. Apparently the people haven't put any signs up or anything....

[Gypsie]

oh dear.

[Simone]

The neighbours were going to try and contact the council or something to see if they could do something about it!!

[JaneP]

I just found out some info on the case in Clear Mountain. I'm pretty sure it's down the end of Branch Creek Road or Buranda one of the two (same road as Vito R) some lady with donkeys went onto a property with EI and it came back with her. Not sure if it was intentional or not. A friend of mine called and told me as she was speaking to the neighbours of the property that is infected. They have Clydesdales but I’m not sure if they have contracted it or not. Apparently the people haven't put any signs up or anything....
Hi Simone, Judging by this message (today's update) on the DPI Qld website, there probably wont be any more quarantine signs posted:

"Please note There are no longer individual quarantined properties in the Red Zone because the entire Red Zone in south east Queensland is designated a Restricted Area. Riding a horse off its current property or relocating a horse via truck or float is still banned in the Red Zone, unless a specific permit is provided by the DPI&F. All horse owners must abide by these regulations."

Seems a fairly ominous sign that they are now fully expecting the entire red zone to become infected one way or another. Where does that leave us all when we are able to travel and compete again????? An awful lot of aligators and a jolly big swamp!!!

What was that you said Gypsie..... "oh dear". I second that.

P.S. everyone, would never have imagined in a million years that this would be the subject of my first ever dressageit comment.

[Simone]

Hi Simone, Judging by this message (today's update) on the DPI Qld website, there probably wont be any more quarantine signs posted:

"Please note There are no longer individual quarantined properties in the Red Zone because the entire Red Zone in south east Queensland is designated a Restricted Area. Riding a horse off its current property or relocating a horse via truck or float is still banned in the Red Zone, unless a specific permit is provided by the DPI&F. All horse owners must abide by these regulations."

I still think that people should be responsible and put up signs if their property is infected so that it reduces the spread via humans.

[Sharyn Ross]

i have 2 live electric tapes across my driveway. it certainly stopped the energex man coming in, i got a nice note in the letter box from them!!

[JaneP]

Has anyone had a look at the Equine Influenza Infected Clusters map on the DPI website. http://www2.dpi.qld.gov.au/extra/EI/maps/weekly/EI-WeeklyIPs-2007-10-15.gif

The dark pink areas in Pine Rivers seem a lot larger than the 4 properties now being reported, and the map was last updated 15 October. If you look at the Gatton area which supposedly now has 8 properties officially infected, the difference is huge.

Totally agree with you Simone re the posting of signs but not just for infected properties. Anyone with horses on their property can put up a sign that warns not just other horse people but the general public about the infectious nature of EI and what you respect re biosecurity and decontamination etc. when anyone wants to enter your property. I was emailed a copy of one about 2 weeks ago by Jane Myer. If you or anyone else would like a copy PM me and I will forward it to you. Not sure if I can post it here???, but it is simple and easy to understand. Let me know.

[riverrange]

EI arrived on my place on Sunday via airmail from a nearby thoroughbred stud who was confirmed mid last week. I informed the DPI on monday morning and same morning I put signs on my front entrance for people not to enter as it was a suspected EI infected property.

Went for a drive yesterday past the entrance of the thoroughbred stud who had it before me and they have absolutely no signs or shut gate or anything. and neither do their neighbouring properties who also have thoroughbreds.

there is definitely 2 levels of conscious regarding what is the right thing to do.

[Simone]

Totally agree with you Simone re the posting of signs but not just for infected properties. Anyone with horses on their property can put up a sign that warns not just other horse people but the general public about the infectious nature of EI and what you respect re biosecurity and decontamination etc. when anyone wants to enter your property. I was emailed a copy of one about 2 weeks ago by Jane Myer. If you or anyone else would like a copy PM me and I will forward it to you. Not sure if I can post it here???, but it is simple and easy to understand. Let me know.

Madeline sent me a sign a few weeks ago and I've had them up on both of my gates ever since....funny thing is I don't see anyone else along my road with any signs up!!! I'm not sure about the other end of the road that i don't drive down (madison park etc) they probably do though.

[Madonna]

i have 2 live electric tapes across my driveway. it certainly stopped the energex man coming in, i got a nice note in the letter box from them!!

I like the live electric tapes idea best. 240V Sharyn?

[ann]

I like the live electric tapes idea best. 240V Sharyn?Ooh, I love them too.

WHAP! - - - somersault - - - THUNK!

[Madonna]

WHAP! - - - somersault - - - THUNK!

Hopefully full back somersault (with a twist):twisted:

[ann]

Hopefully full back somersault (with a twist):twisted:And a huge vet's bill to follow...

[Sharyn Ross]

no 240v, but it is a pretty effective solar unit. :twisted:

given my last power bill (which miraculously doubled in 3 months), it is probably a good thing he couldn't access the property!!

[Madonna]

And a huge vet's bill to follow...

I'm assuming it's to keep the 2 legged animals out, so maybe a neck brace?

[Gypsie]

Ooh, I love them too.

WHAP! - - - somersault - - - THUNK!

oh CLASSIC! SO needed that laugh!

thank you Ann, Sharon and Madonna!

And Linda/RiverRange... will bring that up with the P&P group ie signage.
Not very equal in protocols now is it?

You would think with EI being a NOTIFIABLE disease, you would have to put up a NOTICE that you had it , or were suspected of having it!

hmmmm :eek:

Gypsie

[ann]

oh CLASSIC! SO needed that laugh!It helps to have one earnest but really, really dumb horse on the property. I bred mine, so have nobody to blame but I, myself and me ...

[Madonna]

oh CLASSIC! SO needed that laugh!

Just rig up your own electric tape, 240V, and wait for the laughs.

[saskia]

Can anyone confirm the suspicion that Madison has EI?

[Simone]

Can anyone confirm the suspicion that Madison has EI?

:eek:

You can't be serious! that is like 200m down the road from me !
Haven't they been top notch with their biosecurity though?? When they get pizza deliveries they leave the money in the post box and the pizzas are left on the fence for them...

[Sharyn Ross]

you would probably be best to give Karen a call and ask.

[Phoebe]

:eek:

Haven't they been top notch with their biosecurity though??

From what I've gathered, they couldn't have done more. No idea whether it's true or not that they have EI.

[Simone]

On the up side there is a full page in the Village Pump today on EI plus an extra blurb on the previous page....hopefully people will take note on the current situation!

[Phoebe]

I was wondering when they'd get round to putting something in.

[jodles]

we had volts through our fences in PNG growing up..........great deterrent!!!

[Susan]

Just received a text to say a confirmed EI case has been reported in Westborne Dr. Samford. :eek::eek::eek:

I hope the poor person's neddies are faring well!

G U L P :neutral:

[Phoebe]

Sigh. No stopping it from there.

[Simone]

Oh dear...we're going to get it... *sigh* it's a bit random though considering it's no where near the other cases

[13718]

Just received a text to say a confirmed EI case has been reported in Westborne Dr. Samford. :eek::eek::eek:

I hope the poor person's neddies are faring well!

G U L P :neutral:


Just bloody great.Too close for comfort. How reliable is your informant Susan? Any chance they could be wrong (fingers crossed)? Hope your GG's are well.

[Gypsie]

heck, didnt hear about that! (westborne drive!)

Will ring vet to confirm....

[Gypsie]

Yes, CONFIRMED case,

Westbourne Drive,

SAMFORD.

(information from Samford Vet)

[Simone]

Yes, CONFIRMED case,

Westbourne Drive,

SAMFORD.

(information from Samford Vet)

Doesn't sound hopeful....
thanks for confirming Gypsie... only a matter of time i guess...

[saskia]

sorry to start the rumour about Madison. I misinterpreted something I read. Spoke to Karyn and Madison does NOT have EI!
They do what they can to prevent it but Karyn also confirmed the wetbourne drive so it is closing in.

Will be so glad when all this is over....

[13718]

sorry to start the rumour about Madison. I misinterpreted something I read. Spoke to Karyn and Madison does NOT have EI!
They do what they can to prevent it but Karyn also confirmed the wetbourne drive so it is closing in.

Will be so glad when all this is over....


I asked Brian if it was Westbourne and he emailed me back "a case was confirmed in Wight’s Mtn Rd".

[Gypsie]

nope, definitely Westbourne drive.

[Susan]

Any news on the vaccinations for a mini buffer out Mt Samson way?:confused:

I have 2 ponies on a very extended holiday at a friend's place out that way. (Somehow I am wondering if I'll be able to get them back as they have become quite attached to them:D) I have registered them on the DPI website at that property- is that what they are using to track down horses?)

I don't care if they are vaccinated or not to be honest. They are healthy, round and in good spirits. I just want to do the right thing if they are inside the buffer. (You can't see them from the road- in fact you wouldn't even know they are there....:p)

Hope everyone's neddies are good.

[Phoebe]

Susan... give the vets a call ASAP to tell them the location of the horses and how many.

They were deciding on the exact location of this mini buffer yesterday afternoon, I haven't heard anything further yet. Please let me know if they give you any further details on location...

[Susan]

Rang the SV vets and gave them the address. Thanks Phoebe. They still didn't have specifics about where the buffer was starting etc. They said they would phone if they needed to be done. Cool bananas. It sounds as though Kobble Creek, postman's track area is pretty definite though.

[Phoebe]

Cool.. ignore my SMS then, wasn't sure if you would read this straight away. :)

[13718]

Just saw the latest on the DPI web site. It's not looking good for Samford Valley. Ponies are well but for how long.......................

[Greenacres]

Hi Belinda, there are 2-3 cases in Westbourne Dr & 1 in Magnaferra (sp?) beside Rowena. Getting closer by the minute

[13718]

Hi Belinda, there are 2-3 cases in Westbourne Dr & 1 in Magnaferra (sp?) beside Rowena. Getting closer by the minute

Thank you. I'm not sure knowing where it is helps or not! I do like to be able to track it's progress as it nears me. Hope your pony is well.

[Judi Ruffo]

it will only have been done because it is a companion horse on a property that has registered breeding mares that are currently returned with the studbook and yes i have had retired mares done and the foundered pony,because all horses on the farm get done under the Thouroughbred system.

[neokate]

More cases in Westborne Dr, Cumberland Rd etc.

[Simone]

More cases in Westborne Dr, Cumberland Rd etc.

It looks like it's heading in a direction towards Highvale rather than towards Camp Mountain at the moment. I'm sure it will start to head this way soon :-(

[saskia]

hate to bring the news but just got confirmed that EI seems to have reached upper camp mountain road.

[neokate]

do u know where abouts in upper camp mtn rd? im in mccombe road and thankfully none of my horses are showing signs.. yet atleast

[Simone]

Yes it would be good if you knew because I'm on Upper Camp Mountain Road :eek: Mine were fine this morning but it might be another story when I get home from work tonight.... it's just going to sweep through our road pretty quick almost every property has a horse on it.....

[saskia]

My horse is at madison park and I got a phone call from karyn this morning that the first horses are showing the signs (the snotty noses and coughing).

Karyn has taken such good biosecurity measures (including not allowing agistees to visit directly from the start!) and still that doesn't keep it away so I guess everyone in the area should be prepared for EI to arrive in the next days.

It makes me wonder whether it is still possible to contain EI but let's try to be careful and try to what we can to prevent further spread. And cuddle and spoil our horses on their way to recovery....

[Susan]

Oh, poo, bum, wee as we used to say when kids :(

I hope everyone's ponies are OK

[JaneP]

Oh damn!!!! Am now beginning to display the symptoms of another very contagious exotic disease ie.: sweaty palms, insomnia, nervous disposition ....

"SITTING DUCK SYNDROME"

Good luck everyone... here we go and ditto Susan, I hope everyone's ponies come out of this ok not to mention with a half decent 12 month immunity under their girths.

Jane :(

[enchanted_equine]

ohhh golly gosh, iv got an emaciated thoroughbred out there that i have owned for a total of a week, lets hope i didnt 'give' that money away, given her condition and all!

[Greenacres]

Apparently Karyn from Madison has sent out emails confirming EI is at Madison Park - got it from neighbours 20metres away. Karyn did everything she could do to prevent it. My neighbour 3 doors down has it too so matter of time before my boy gets it now :-(

[Simone]

I think mine have it, one has a temp of 38.4 which jumped from 37.1 and she has yellow snot coming out of her nose....

[enchanted_equine]

uhhh thats suss.... good luck!

[Nikki]

The dry hacking cough is the main part of it. But yellow snot is not good anyway.

My oldie has coped well. The snot was minimal, stayed opaque at the worst. The cough and subsequent farts - very loud, whilst coughing was the worst part (here was me in the house going, poor Toby *giggle*)

[Simone]

I will just have to wait and see...I’ll keep taking the temp and see if it goes up any more. She isn't looking to happy really keeps wiping her nose on her leg and getting snot all over it *Yuk*

first temp at 8 am was 38.4 now at 9:45 it is 38.8..the vet said that i have to wait for it to get to 39 before they do anything

[Phoebe]

Bugger.

Did DPI get back to you about the vaccinations (bit late it seems but anyway)?

[Simone]

Yeah they called this morning i was like uh..too late!!!
tipped 39 at 12pm now is coughing called the vet and dpi and have called surrounding neighbours to let them know. Haylia still has shown no signs of it at all...